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>> wow. happy birthday, peter. wherever you are. >> i certainly hope that bret bear gets him a cake. good morning, everybody. on monday a global demand for answer as grim scene unfolds in ukraine. russian separatists taking dozens of bodies from the malaysia air crash site, loading eminto train cars. this is four days after the plane was shot down by a surface-to-air missile. good morning. a lot of developments to get through as we say hello to "america's newsroom." i'm bill hemmer. martha has time with her family. >> i'm patti ann browne in for martha. the fingerpoint something intense filing. secretary of state john kerry saying there is no doubt moskow was involved in the tragedy and it is time for vladmir putin to take action. >> russia arms these separatist it is.
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russia trains these separatists. russia supports these separatists. russia has spoken out and has refused to call on them publicly to do things that need to be done. so i think this is a fundamental moment of truth for russia, for mr. putin. bill: steve harrigan is on the ground live in donetsk, in eastern ukraine where there is renewed fighting underway again there. steve what is going on? >> reporter: bill, in this major city of donetsk a million civilians living, you can see a plume of smoke rising behind me. there is a tank battle going on in this city. both side, pro-russian rebels backed by russian artillery and ukrainian side. they are seeing 50-year-old russian tanks drive into the battle, which is going on around the train station in donetsk. every few minutes we're hearing what seems to be grad rocket launchers. these are really anti-personnel
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rockets, really fired into a large city. the results could be devastating for civilians. although we've been seeing a lot of people leaving the scene, carrying their bags, carrying their pets, other people a little bit indifferent to what is some real danger within a mile with that train station and several other buildings simply up in flames. what we're seeing now is a push, a push by the ukrainian military to seal off this last major city which is still a strong hold of the russian-backed rebels. bill, back to you. bill: saw some of your reporting over the weekend, steve. totally and entirely gripping. tell us more where the victims bodies are being taken based on what you have seen. >> reporter: well you can imagine with the crash site just about 40 miles away from here how this slows things down. right now they are stuck at a train station. sometimes the cars are refrigerated. sometimes not. day four now of those body, some of them rotting, waiting to be reunited with their family
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members. the trauma really extend to a number of tiny ukrainian villages where people have had not only parts of the plane but everything inside rain down on their houses. the wings, the nose, the landing gear from malaysian flight 11 fell across small villages in eastern ukraine. so too did the bodies of passengers. andre found one in his backyard. the image brings the 78-year-old to tears. i've been you there war with the germans, famine, he says but this is worse. a child was found near his front yard, number 28. nadya's cell phone is filled with pictures of the dead from her yard, her street, her child's school. after the explosion we ran out to see what happened, she says. they were falling everywhere.
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alone, here and gone, in sunflower fields, wheatfields marked with a rag or a ribbon. what this renewed fighting does, is really bring everything to a stop. as i speak, i can hear grad rockets being launched again in the distance. it really stops everything. it stops the bodies from moving and it stops international investigators who are trying to come to the scene to find out exactly what happened from reaching a place where pretty much no guaranteed security exists. bill, back to you. bill: steve harrigan, thank you. good to have you there. we hope for better news very soon. thank you, steve. patti ann? >> bill, russian president vladmir putin is lashing out against growing accusations that his country was involved in the downing of flight 17. >> translator: we need for all people to answer for the situation to uphold their responsibility, both before their own people as before the people of other nations, the representatives of which became victims of this catastrophe. it is necessary to do everything
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in order to secure the safe work of international experts at the site of this tragedy. >> well putin's comments come in the wake of convincing new evidence showing the plane was shot down with a russian surface-to-air missile that was likely operated by a group of pro-russian separatists. moscow is rejecting those charges. bill: secretary kerry however making the case the root of the separatist its weapons and training leads directly back to moscow. that prompting our own chris wallace to put this key question to secretary kerry on sunday. >> if this is an outrage of unspeakable proportion as the president said, why not impose a greater cost on vladmir putin? >> just a few moments we'll talk to karl rove and you will hear the answer as we play the response from secretary kerry and ask should the u.s. get tougher on putin? if we're waiting on the europeans, what are they doing today. all that coming up in of moments on that story.
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five minutes past the hour. >> the bloodiest day yet in the conflict between israel and hamas, leaving scores dead, include two americans fighting for israeli military. one top priority for israel, destroying the underground tunnels the terrorists are using to infiltrate the jewish state. well that aerial combat is still raging. the skies over gaza lighting up as the israeli air force takes out those hamas rockets. now there is word that secretary of state john kerry is heading to cairo to try to get a cease-fire deal worked out. david lee miller is live on israel's border with gaza. hi, david, those tunnels still a problem. >> reporter: indeed they are. since this conflict got underway there have been at least four infiltrations using the tunnels. two of those infiltrations taking place just a short time ago. hamas militants entering israel. we are now getting reports that
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as many as 10 of the militants were killed in some type of a firefight. hamas says two of the militants safely made it back to gaza. they are also claiming that they were able to fire a rocket-propelled grenade at an israeli jeep. no word yet of any injuries or casualties from the is a israeli government. some video that you're looking at will show actual surveillance of militants as they entered israel in one of those two incidents that took place. as you would expect the entire area was on lockdown. people told not to leave their homes. roads were shut down. this is a serious problem for israel. the israeli public and the israeli government and military, very much taken by surprise, patti ann, to learn the full extent of what appears to be a considerable tunnel network that the hamas have been able to build. just to give you some quick idea what we're talking about, these
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tunnels extend as far as 90 feet underground. some of them are more than, half a foot long. takes as long as 12 hours they say to destroy a sung gel tunnel. patti ann? >> what about the diplomatic front, david? are we any closer to a cease-fire? >> reporter: we are inching in slow motion toward what might be a cease-fire. as you reported moments ago, secretary of state john kerry now in the region. he is growing knob cairo. but perhaps the key developments today are going to take place in qatar. the secretary of state will be meeting with officials in cairo but in qatar a meeting is taking place between the palestinian president, mahmoud abbas and exiled leader of hamas. we expect later today, 2:00 east coast time the exiled leader of hamas will hold a news conference. very quickly, let me tell you even though this is an
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egyptian-brokered cease-fire qatar could have considerable influence on hamas because they have the purse strings for much of their operations in gaza. the exiled leader lives in doha. we'll hear from him in a few hours. patti ann? >> we look forward to the press conference. david lee miller live. thank you. bill: there was this moment. secretary of state john kerry caught in rare candid moment on open microphone between interviews on sunday. kerry was heard apparently mocking israel's claim that its military operation in goods is a would be limited. it happened as the secretary was getting ready for his live interview with chris wallace on "fox news sunday." >> it is a hell of a pinpoint operation. it is a hell of a pinpoint operation. >> right. escalating significantly and just underscores need foresees fire. >> we have to get over there. thank you, john. i think john, we ought to go tonight. i think it is crazy to be sitting around. bill: we'll let you know the question that followed that an
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answer that came from that as well with kt mcfarland. secretary kerry went on to explain the situation on the ground was complex and later left for cairo last evening. more on his trip and what is happening on the ground with that developing story. patti ann? >> iran getting more breathing room on its nuclear program. a deadline for a deal has come and gone. the talks have been extended into november. iran and six world powers failed to reach a comprehensive agreement over the weekend so they're essentially sticking to the interim deal already in place. critics say this gives iran more time to stall and make progress developing a nuclear weapon. bill: there is breaking news this morning on a major train derailment. hundreds of people were forced out of their homes in the middle of the night. we'll tell you where that happened and what they're doing now. >> a hot-air balloon ride take as scary turn. >> oh, my god. >> balloon hitting power lines and burst into flames as it
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tried to land in a suburban neighborhood. we have amazing video. bill: amazing is right. president obama under fire. secretary kerr defending administration moves so far but the critics are wondering what is the president is up to. >> president obama has become the king of indecision. his policies are failing across the globe and they will come to.
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patti ann: a train collision leaves two people injured and forces evacuation of more than 100 homes in wisconsin. the slinger fire chief says two trains collided at an intersection and derailed, spilling 5,000 gallons of diesel fuel. hazmat crews are on the scene trying to clean up the spill. two train crewmembers were hospitalized with non-life-threatening injures. the red cross set up shelter for evacuees at a local school. no word yet what caused the collision. >> the president imposed a greater cost on vladmir putin the day before this shoot-down
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took place. what we are doing now is trying to bring our european counterparts along because we have 4% of russia's trade is with the united states. 50% of their engagement is with europe. so we are trying to encourage our european friend to realize this is a wake-up call and hopefully, they will also join us in these tougher sanctions. bill: so secretary of state john kerry responding to a question from chris wallace why president obama will not get tougher on vladmir putin, despite calling the downing, a quote, outrage of unspeakable proportions? karl rove, senior former advisor, deputy chief of staff to president george bush and also a fox news contributor here to analyze this. karl, howry, and good morning to you there in austin, texas. i guess we're waiting on the europeans or your pines are waiting for us to drag them along or, kind of goes happened in hand? the question is, what now and what next? >> he is being a little bit
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disingenuous while we have a small amount of trade with the russians and the europeans have a lot nonetheless the russians need access to american capital markets. so the tougher our sanctions are, the more likely they are to bring along the europeans. the other part of this equation is, is that it is not just about sanctions, it is about aiding the ukrainians. if the united states were now to say, president obama were to call putin and say, you know what? this is, this is irresponsible on your part and unacceptable. as a result we have sent a u.s., maybe even a u.s. nato mission to, to kiev and we're going to sit down with the ukrainians and find out what they need in the way of military supplies and logistics support for the operations. there will be a price to pay for you having done this. that price is we'll make certain they have what they need in order to re-establish the control over the eastern part of ukraine. that would be tough. both those things would be tough. tougher sanctions on the russian economic sectors, particularly
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energy and banking. so they didn't have access to u.s. capital markets. that would bring the europeans along. the then, aid the ukrainians to do what they need to do to get control of the kiev government. bill: do you anticipate the administration taking those steps? >> if the president's people call this unspeakable and secretary of state goes out and says the russians are responsible for it, then they better act. once again the credibility of the united states is at stake and they have not got a good record on this. syria, saying assaud must go and then he is not gone. saying we need a status of forces agreement to leave behind a force in iraq and doesn't come to pass. all these things tended to undermined the credibility united states and putin is a guy who senses weakness and seizes upon weakness. the president ought to tough enup this week. you notice kerry said president obama put sanctions in place before the event happened. it was minor increase in the sanctions in response to what
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the russians were doing in eastern ukraine. for us now to have this unspeakable act as administration called it, pass without tougher sanctions will be really problematic. bill: so you lay out a pattern here of, i don't know if you would call it delay or indecision or perhaps you call it both? >> i call it weakness and fecklessness. bill: if you believe that then, what do you believe president obama will do this week? >> you know what? probably not much. i mean he, this amazes me. he had a five-minute statement about ukraine, first state was 40 seconds at a public speech. then he gave a five-minute statement in the situation room. if you want to be symbolic, go give an address about this. go to the netherland embassy and sign the book of remembrance and grief and stand with the netherland ambassador and talk about how the west must not let this stand. you know, even on the symbolism he is weak, let alone on
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substance. substance matters here. tough sanctions and aid the ukrainians in visible ways that help them re-establish control. that would be tough but so far, we got weakness. bill: lindsey graham was on "meet the press." you know secretary kerry did all five sunday talk shows, the ginsburg as we call it now. this is lindsey graham talking about secretary kerry talking about you who the world is more stable place. >> he gave the most ridiculous and delusional summary of american foreign policy i could imagine. it scares me that he believes the world is in such good shape. america is the glue that holds the free world together, leading from behind is not working. the world is adrift and president obama has become the king of indecision. his policies are failing across the globe and they will come here soon. bill: points on that, karl in if we don't lead, history shows us europe does not. they're waiting for us. and the king of indecision
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phrase that graham is referring to in that sound bite there, if you believe that, again, then what is the expectation or anticipation on behalf of vladmir putin that anyone will get him to do anything because of this? >> look, there have, been costs to putin on the international scene, from a public opinion perspective. that is to say, the world now sees him as a bad actor in the region but think about this. he got into crimea with relatively little cost to him. he has instability in ukraine which weakens that country and makes it more likely not to fall into the western orbit. so far he has not had a very high cost to his actions. as i say, you know, he is, he, has thought deeply how to re-establish the russian empire. and its influence and he is looking for weakness and seizing upon that weakness whenever we can. the president ought to understand showing strength, it pushes him back. bill: eye on iran and also
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syria, now you have got him and got the evidence, five seconds left. this is the one where you can squeeze him because the world is behind you. >> tough sanctions, absolutely. tough sanctions and give the ukrainians what they need in order to re-establish control against the russian separatist it is in the east and we will take a big step putting putin back in the box. bill: i have got to run. karl, thanks. talk later in the week. karl rove live from austin, texas. thank you. patti ann. patti ann: shocking new warning from a top u.s. official. why the chairman of the homeland security committee that al qaeda is determined more than ever to take down a commercial airline. we'll have a major report. bill: a new report suggesting that the white house was warned about the border crisis a year ago and dismissed it as a local problem as more lawmakers call on the administration, the president, to do something about it now. >> the objective should be to help the kids. the way you help the kids you eliminate the magnet which is president obama's --
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bill: big story in the pacific northwest. governor of washington state now declaring a state of emergency. one man reported dead as these wildfires continue to whip through north central washington. police say the victim died of a heart attack while trying to save his own hope. it is estimated 150 homes have been destroyed and officers warn that number will likely go higher. >> we have so much more work to do. the nature of this firestorm truly is unprecedented. we have had twice as many acres burned already before the fire season even started. and that fire has put this state in a position of being stretched beyond imagination. bill: about 1400 firefighters have been battling this blaze in washington state. patti ann: new concerns about
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the safety of air travel and a frightening new declaration from a top u.s. lawmaker. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge is live in washington. catherine what are we learning? >> reporter: good morning, patti ann. the chairman of house homeland security committee who receives regular briefings on intelligence says al qaeda and its affiliates are more determined to bring down aircraft and increasingly they have capability to do so because of a growing safe haven in syria and iraq. >> al qaeda has not given up on its threats to the aviation sector, i can't stress that enough. it was before 9/11 and it is even stronger after 9/11. they have not given up on their desire to bring down u.s. airlines. >> reporter: and u.s. intelligence community assesses that there is credit evidence western passport holders in syria are working with operatives with al qaeda in yemen to build bombs with non-metallic explosives that can circumvent traditional airline
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security, patti anne. patti ann: what about the ability to ramp up security on telephones? >> reporter: a norwegian national, recently designated by a foreign terrorist by u.s. state department rampp security on flights from to u.s. from europe. he was trained by the ibrahim al-asiri, who was nearly brought down the jet in detroit because he has trained others including anders to build these devices and take this capability to syria where the fighting increasingly destablizes that country, creating a safe haven. there is a pool of western nationals who can transport the bombs. like norwegians they have clean passports and have no criminal records and do not fit the traditional profile of al qaeda terrorist. >> he is a premier al qaeda bomb-maker worldwide. so a norwegian who could maybely
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blend more into society. doesn't look like the typical muslim radcan extremist, with this type of expertise in bomb-making, with clean travel documents is precisely the threat that i think homeland security officials are concerned about. >> reporter: this is the first time that there has been a public connection made between this norwegian national trained by al qaeda in yemen to make these bombs and this increased threat that led to the screening of phones as well as shoes at those airports overseas coming into the u.s., patti ann. patti ann: catherine herridge, live in washington. thanks. bill: u.n. security council is a busy place these days and for good reason. we're just getting word they will meet today this afternoon to try to figure out what to do about ukraine. we're live at the u.n. to figure out what is happening there in a moment. patti ann: secretary of state john kerry caught on open mic. what did his comments reveal? we'll talk about that. p÷úññ
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bill: 9:3in new york on a monday secretary of state john kerry going to cairo for a looking to broke ear cease-fire between israel and hamas. secretary kerry sunday was on a open mic apparently mocking israel's claims about the accuracy of its operation. later on the air kerry expressed right for israel to defend himself. >> that is a hell of a pin.operation, that is a hell of a pinpoint operation. >> right, escalating significantly and underscores need for sears fire. >> we have got to get over there. >> yep. >> thank you, john. i think, john, we ought to go tonight. i think it is crazy to sit around. bill: he followed through on that decision an went to cairo. kt mcfarland, national security analyst here in new york. what do you make of that, kt? what does it tell you? >> it tells you secretary kerry
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mind-set going into cease-fire. he already decided israel is in the wrong. he says all the talking points, israel has right to exist, defend himself, but the off mic moments tells you a lot, he is going into any cease-fire that israel has too many civilian casualties. and so, you sort of know where his bias is walking in. the reason this is important is because the fear has always been in the last several years in the obama administration, that they weren't as committed to israel. that they weren't really sort of as previous american presidents and previous political leaders in the united states had been, deciding that israel has got to have whatever it takes to survive and to exist in that region. so you worry he walks into this negotiation already with a little prejudice against israel. bill: let me because i was watching it. i thought it was very interesting moment. i don't think very often you find moments like that, especially on stories significant as this he went on when chris wallace asked him to follow up, find out what his intention was there because i
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think wallace called it, to paraphrase him an interesting diplomatic moment. secretary kerry said, listen you should be able to defend yourself from rockets that come into your country and you should be able to go after tunnels if they're sending terrorists into your territory. >> hamas knows it will not win the fight. it is a round of violence hamas always starts. they start. they have an incident. israel respond. hamas responds by lobbing rockets into israel. israel goes in and takes out rockets. what does hamas do in interim period? build up more rockets to fight again. hamas knows it doesn't win militarily. it hopes it will lynn diplomatically, politically. if there are casualties and they want palestinian casualties, they can grow to the world and say, israel is the aggressor. bill: what you're suggesting hamas would score a huge victory if it divides israel and united states. >> that is the key. bill: do you see that happening under this administration? >> that is the key and that is
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the worry. israel knows, iran with nuclear weapons that extensional threat to israel's existence but suicide is israel and the united states breaking. then israel is really all alone in the world. israel needs american alliance. america should stand up for israel. hamas understands that. they understand if they drive a wedge between the two, they win. bill: just not to get too particular on this but we're encouraging hamas to take the cease-fire deal on behalf of egypt but egypt outlawed the muslim brotherhood and hamas supports the muslim brotherhood so who brokers this. >> that is the biggest question of all. in the past egypt has been able to broker. the united states has been able to broker. israel doesn't want the muslim brotherhood. they see it as threat to their own existence. that is why hamas is saying maybe we'll have a different deal. maybe qatar could broker this deal. maybe turkey could broker this deal. on the other hand is supporting hamas. it is middle east, bill, nothing ever makes sense and --
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bill: comes around over and over again. which comes back to your point, that hamas sees itself in a normal state you believe, as a group that is constantly at war with israel. >> we understand in the west, we think peace is what is normal state of events of the israel thinks same way. war is something when peace breaks out, breaks down but you have to fight and it is done and you have peace again. hamas and in the middle east and whole mind-set of the whole jihadist mind set, terrorist mind-set, war is constant. peace is merely a pause while you regroup to fight again. their goal of victory, all christians and jews, are dead. and israel no longer exists as a jewish state. i mean, one of their leading clerics who has most popular talk show host in the middle east he says the reason we will ultimately win is young muslim men love death more than young jews and christians love life. bill: last incursion lasted
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about 15 days. i think we're on day five now. we'll see whether or not it continues. kt mcfarland in studio. patti ann: we are expecting a vote from the united nations security council today on a resolution condemning the shooting down of a commercial plane over eastern ukraine last week and ordering an international investigation into that crash which killed all 298 passengers and crew. but there is already talk that the resolution's wording is being watered down to appease russia. chief correspondent jonathan hunt live in our newsroom with the latest. jonathan what is this resolution likely to say at the end? >> reporter: patti ann, if u.s. and other western officials get their way this resolution will outright condemn the downing of flight mh17. it will call on the pro-russian separatists who currently control the crash site to allow full and immediate access for international investigators. it will also demand that those
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responsible for the shooting down of mh17 be held accountable but what it probably will not be able to do is say exactly whom the security council believes is responsible for the shooting down. the problem here is the veto power within the united nations security council. take a look at this list. five permanent members of the security council. each of those five has the power of veto. there is the key one. just popped up. russia. so if, if the u.n. security council wants to say pro-russian separatists are responsible for this, russia will simply veto that resolution. that's the bottom line here, patti ann. patti ann: so is that one of the reasons these negotiations are taking so long? >> reporter: absolutely. that is the single main. the british ambassador to the u.n. said last night that russia is employing delaying tactics,
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simply putting inments to the resolution. then even if those amendments are agreed to by other nations the russians come back and say, well actually we want a couple more amendments. that is why it is so hard. that veto is still a possibility, that there may be no resolution. australian prime minister whose nation lost 37 citizens and residents in the crash, talked about how he would react if there was a veto. listen here. >> very, very badly. we will do our best to craft a resolution which, under the circumstances, no reasonable person could object to. that what we will do. it won't be wishy-washy or meally-mouthed but nevertheless it will be crafted in such a way that no reasonable person could object to it. >> reporter: no reasonable person could object to it but
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that does mean whatever the australian prime minister says, it is likely to be something of, as he put it, a wishy-washy resolution. the vote is expected about 3:00 p.m. eastern today, patti ann. patti ann: jonathan hunt live in our newsroom, thai. bill: thank you. they were gearing up for a nice, peaceful afternoon when this happened. >> [bleep] bill: six people on board crashing and bursting into flames at a neighborhood. we'll talk to the man behind the camera, and ask him what he saw. patti ann: also, did the obama administration turn a blind eye to the growing border crisis? a damaging new report shows the white house may have known about the problem as early as last year but failed to do anything about it. >> they don't want to fix the problem. they want to keep having children come in a situation where they're brutalized. that doesn't make any sense and not consistent with rule of law.
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bill: as the white house faces questions over handling of the veterans administration crisis, we're learning obama team was warned about problems at the va right after the 2008 election. "washington times" reporting that officials had briefed the obama transition team about the need to reduce excessive wait times for our veterans as va tech officials were working on an overhaul of the scheduling system. last week the acting secretary of va testified the system was outdated but had no other update on plans to fix it. patti ann: speaking of ignored warnings, damaging new report shows the white house was warned about the growing immigration crisis along the u.s.-mexico border as early as last summer. the report raised serious flags about the flood of unaccompanied children across the border and warned the situation was expected to get a lot worse. this report coming out just days after senate majority leader harry reid described the border, as secure. well that comment raised eyebrows and prompted this
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response from senator ted cruz. >> president obama and harry reid both engage in debates divorced from the facts and divorced from reality. harry reid lives in the ritz-carlton in washington, d.c. from his peregg speculative the border seems secure. invite harry reid to come with me down to texas to see the border. patti ann: our panel, katie pavlich, fox news contributor and news editor townhall.com and. last august, team much experts observed immigration station in brownsville, texas, were so alarmed what they saw they sent a 41-page report to the obama administration. that research by university of texas was funded by the department of homeland security but "the washington post" says that the warnings in that report were ignored. steve, is this incompetence or deliberate policy decision? >> i don't think it is either. look, this is a crisis that has certainly been brewing for a
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period of time. you have horrific and unspeakable violence going on in honduras and guatemala, where 11-year-olds are fleeing, threatened with being killed and raped. what you need is comprehensive solution that deals with it as a humanitarian crisis. what you don't need is ad homonym attacks like ted cruz is launching instead of actual political solutions. obama administration treated this more as humanitarian crisis but at least put a solution on the table that increases border security, and increases adjudicating these cases at border. patti ann: katie, enearlier than tha in early 2012 texas governor rick perry wrote a letter to president obama, citing 90% increase in unaccompanied minors in central america and urging, quote, immediate action because every child allowed to stay encourages hundreds more to attempt the journey. that is rick perry in april 2012. politics involved here?
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>> absolutely. president obama, if you look at this report, that "the washington post" discussed, you take a look at what the agents were saying and agents warned about this and said the administration was more focus what steve just mentioned which is comprehensive immigration reform and ignored the problem with president obama created with his own policy for two reasons. a, they wanted to get comprehensive immigration reform in. and b, they didn't want to draw attention to president obama's deferred action program. steven saying this is bun of children coming to flee violence there, is intelligence report out, bunch interviewing people and vast majority, over 90%, said that they're not fleeing because of violence. they're fleeing, they're coming here because they know they will get amnesty if they get their foot in the door which we're seeing with way they're being handled through border patrol and through i.c.e. and through lack of interior enforcement. >> that, they don't know they
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will get amnesty. in fact the fact we know they're coming means they're being stopped at border. and, secondly, the notion that 90% are not fleeing violence, somehow, katie knows that these 11 and 12-year-olds trying to be recruited into the narcotics trade are not fleeing violence. we're seeing stories of it all over the place. somehow she knows they somehow know washington's immigration reform policy debate better than they know -- >> steven, take a look at the intelligence report, that these intelligence officers did, asking children who are lear illegally, who came as a result of this new wave, they will tell you, in these interviews that they are not fleeing violence as media reports have incorrectly stated. they are coming here because they know if they get their foot on the ground they will be able to stay. we've seen that exact thing happen. >> if that were true, then the republicans ought to support the president's plan to actually deal with this problem at the border and adjudicate these
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situations. >> what plan? >> $3.7 billion plan he laid on the table two weeks ago. >> typical, throwing money at the problem. >> not throwing money at problem. patti ann: i have to leave it there. getting a wrap. steve sigmund, katie pavlich. thank you. bill: 11 minutes before the hour. price of airline ticket went higher. why you're paying more for tsa pat downs. plus this. >> people need to move. >> oh. >> they hit the pole. >> oh [bleep] bill: that is terrifying scene. a hot-air balloon crashing into two power lines. we'll talk to a witness who saw the whole thing go down. >> the first one was a big explosion. then it went to the second wire and there was another big explosion. >> when it reached me, right above me, a pole away, it exploded, the high voltage wires.
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bill: this is some kind of video here. a hot-air balloon crashing into power lines in as massachusetts neighborhood that injured five people. much watch here. >> [bleep]. >> back up. bill: oh, the man behind the camera is ron raymond. that. crash sending sparks flying and knocking out power to 600. five of the six people on board hospitalized with burns. ron raymond on the phone. he witnessed that. ron, how are you? good morning to you. >> not too bad. a little safer than i was saturday night. bill: i bet. you're 45 minutes west of boston, massachusetts. you live in this neighborhood and what did you first see, ron that made you go grab your camera? >> i had been out looking for computers and it was 8:00 at night. i was just getting home and
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noticed i needed some gas. i went down and got some gas. i looked over the trees and seen a big hot-air balloon coming. i said, whoa!, that doesn't belong there, so you knew something was wrong? >> i knew something was wrong. when i get down to the next intersection he seen it coming closer heading toward me. i pulled the car over. i got out and started doing video clips and stills. bill: wow. what altitude would that hot-air balloon at that point, would you say? >> i got to say 50 to 100 feet,. bill: so could you see people inside? >> oh, yeah, i could see people inside. when they got closer of course, you see the videos, you could hear them. people were talking to them from the street. they were just above the power lines. bill: were they concerned or -- >> they weren't concerned. they were in god's hands, the pilot. they didn't even suspect anything was going on. there was not one word uttered
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look out, look out, anything like that. you know the pilot had to make a decision i believe. he either had to land in that field or give it a little more gas and raise up and land on a rooftop, right beyond it. and he made the wrong decision. bill: ron, i guess at that point they thought they were okay, right? they were going to come out of this thing just fine? >> yeah, they thought they were okay. there was not one scream or anything. they, they just thought he was going tofied them right to that pie's -- guy's backyard. bill: you say people on the ground were waving to them in the basket? >> they were waving and stuff, asking them they were going to land as you heard in the video. i sent it all up there, they said, yeah we'll land in that field. bill: did you go to the area, once the hot-air balloon came down? if you have got five of the six in the hospital, they must not have been in food shape at that point? >> they looked food. they -- good. they crawled out of there.
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they had plenty of help. people got them out of there. what happened after that, i don't know, the police told us to back up because, power line landed about five feet from my, from me. it landed on my car. my car is gone. it is all peppered with metal and copper. all the glass is broken. the front and rear, the windshield wiper, the hood, everything got trashed. bill: you have had an afternoon you won't forget, ron. thank you for sharing part of your story with us. we certainly hope the best for the five that went to the hospital. thank you. >> i just want to add, i was right underneath it so. okay? bill: good thing you're okay too. thank you, ron, for share your story. >> all right. bill: ron raymond, clinton, massachusetts. patti ann: yesterday is being called bloody sunday and secretary of state kerry is on his way to cairo after the deadliest day in the violence between hamas and israel. now calls foresees fire. bill: you have hundreds of
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is struggling to contain the fighting. >> the secretary has a balancing act on his hands. what is the goal of the trip now? >> you are right. he was leaving at 1 a.m. today. they were expecting there would be a trip soon but it is last-minute because there has been an escollation and we are seeing more deaths on the palestinian and israeli side. what the sectary is trying to do is go to egypt and get all sides to calm down. but it was several days last week where there was a tentative seize fire and the united states thought it was coming down. >> the president is walking a fine line. a few phone calls with the prime minister but he and the prime
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minister have a tense relationship. >> and remember kerry was asking a conversation with a top aid who was mocking that the prime minister said this was a pin prick operation. top officials are okay with him going forward with this offensive if it is focused on going through the tunnel and rooting out the terrorist. but we are seeing it going beyond that. because if the president is seen as pushing back too hard than the israelis will be upset but if he is not standing up for the palestinians he is going to hear from the from the other side. >> ed henry from the north lawn thank you.
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two minutes past the hour. the u.n.security counsel is going to vote on a resolution condemning the take down of flight mh-17 calling for the united states and president to take a stance against russia. >> we have to make clear to putin the rules of the game changed and he violated civil norms. >> i think the west, including the united states, has to have a far more significant response than we have seen to date. it is what i thought before the shoot down and certainly this is a despicable act that needs to be a resolved. >> jennifer griffin is live in washington. what is the reaction to the white house handling this? >> reporter: there has been calls for europe to do more and join tougher u.s. sanctions
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against russia which they have been resisting. the chairman of the house committee is frustrated. >> we continue to work with the intelligence committee but we have no robust engagement with the white house and security council. >> reporter: this can be a galvanizing moment for europe to act. the europeans are dependented on russian energy supplies so they resi resisted the previous sanctions we suggested >> do we have enough to pin this on russia? >> reporter: they believe they have a mountain of evidence that points right back to washington. secretary carry laid out the ed
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evidence on sunday. russian separatist have shot down 12 ape airplane. >> we saw the launch and because of the altitude and trejectory and we have both of those. >> reporter: the united states intelligence committee feels it has all of the evidence it needs and now it is a question of how they want to use it against russia. brit hume is here. take the last part of jennifer's point there. what do they do? if you have the evidence now is the time to use it i would imagine. >> bill, this is a wonderful example of the foreign policy is
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confronted with. first, you have the weakness of your european allies and their hesitance to do anything serious about russia. secondly, you have to fact in key areas of foreign policy, the president needs russian cooperation especially with regard to iran so he is naturally hesitant to do much. he is trying to walk middle ground where you respond in a way that is strong and firm but you cannot alienate putin because you need hemi hem in ot parts of the world. you end up with a muddle and that is, to the critics, where it looks like the president is ending up. similar to the israeli and the palestinians. does this administration really
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want israel to stop the military operation before the job is complete? and that the the elimination of these tunnels and weapon facilities which gaza has honey combed and are a source of attacks that everybody agrees no one would be expected to tolerate. if that job isn't done, is it a good idea to stop or does it mean israel will be back in the same problem soon? >> coming back to putin, if you are of the mind he took the upper hand on iran, and he took the upper hand on the war in syria, now you have this support and backing of the western world with the shoot down of the plane. if there was an opportunity to hit back at putin this is. >> it is. but if you are worried you will
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lose the cooperation in the other areas mentioned you can see why the president might be hesitant. but there are times where the president has to act with moral clarity and this president seems hesitant to do that sometimes and that is the case with israel as well. the united states wants to be seen as the honest broker that can put together a peace agreement between israel and the palestinian neighbor and that requires you have agreement on both sides. but the fact of the matter is the united states and israel are close allie and that is where the sympathy of the country lie and that is why you are hearing the response saying it is too weak. >> they are saying the right things. >> yeah, but what are they
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doing? what is the point in a seize fire when they have not finished the job. this is karl rove's solution an hour ago. >> tougher sanctions on the energy and banking so they don't have access to u.s. capital markets and aid the ukrainians in doing what they need to number a better government. >> bring the europeans along. europe doesn't have the will or desire to move much on any of this unless we lead them to it. >> this is the familiar pattern going back through history. europe has been weak, responded late or not at all the to aggressors -- with the exception of great britain. and the united states has found itself repeatedly in the role to
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get europe to man-up, if you will, and join the united states alliance. the stronger the united states is the easier it to get the europeans go along. you saw this back in the reagan days in eastern europe. there was a huge peace movement egged on by the soviets for the missiles not to be put there and there was a famous nuclear phrase. reagan and thatcher were not listening to the voices and went ahead and did that. >> thank you, brit. the demand for action against russia is crossing party line. here is diane feinstein. >> i would say putin, you have to man up. you should talk to the world. you ask say if this was a
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mistake, which i hope it was, say it. >> we will have more ahead on what to do what vladimer putin. and the irs under oath and what they are saying about the lost e-mails on behalf of lois lerner and six others at the irs. >> and a police officer puts his life on the line after a drunk driver walks across a busy highway. >> he could not believe what he was saying.
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a massive mudslide shutting down a highway in colorado near colorado springs. this area was devastated by flooding after forest fires two years ago. it is the forth time in two weeks it has been shutdown. >> we brought in two loaders and have ten dump trucks and we are
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plowing the material off the road. >> the cars that were coming the opposite direction had to shlow down and let us go around. it turned into chaos. >> no cars were stuck in the mud and no one was injured luckily. fox news alert. we are just getting word the president will make a statement on ukraine at about 10:50 eastern time and we will have that for you live as mounting ends points to pro-russian rebal shutting down the malaysian airline flight and it looks luke russia's fingerprints are all over this. putin is being called to admit his role in this attack. >> the relationship between russia and the separatist has been established clearly. so the issue is where is putin?
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i would say putin you have to man up. you should talk to the world. you should say if this was a mistake, which i hope it was, say it. even if it was a mistake, it is horrible mistake to make. >> jack keane is chairman of the institute of study of war and a fox news analyst. you heard senator diane feinstein saying putin needs to man up but that doesn't look like it is close to happening. what should the united states do, general? >> we have to confront and rebuke putin for what he is doing. he is a thug and enjoys the association of the word leaders. but he is conducting a covert operation to topple ukraine. he has provided his leaders, who
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are running the operation, arms, training and ammunition to do all of that. this incident is his responsibility and we should hold him accountable. not wait for the results of some formal investigation. let's go after the guy publically. >> david cameron wrote an opt-ed saying for too long there has been reluctance to face up to what is happening in ukraine. it is time to make our power and resources growing. we behave we need russia more than they need us. is europe too timid? >> henry kissinger has been
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saying for 30 years that the europeans can no longer ask their people to sacrifice because they will not make sacrifices. if you want to move the european, you have to lead the europeans. if the united states is passive like they have been on a number of issues nothing is going to happen. only through american leadership can we motivate the europeans. sometimes we have to act first to follow. and russia is something we can deal with. we make this out to be so much harded than what it is really. >> you have seven specific -- harder -- demands. the first is to expose the proxy war you say he is conducting. you want him to explain why he is responsible for almost 300 civilian deaths. back to diane feinstein saying maybe this was a mistake and there is evidence they thought they were shooting down a
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military plane. what about that? >> well i think that is probably likely given what we know. but the fact of the matter is they have surfaced air missiles that putin gave them and firing the aircraft. even though the intention was a cargo plane they killed 300 civ civilians. we have to get tough on this. think of what putin is doing to assist and arm the separatist movement. and the ukrainian government, this new government, asked us for arms, ammunition and training and we are given them ready to eat meals. that is outrageous. where is the moral clarity to stand up and support these people that want to live in
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freedom, liberty, grow and be closer to the west. >> thank you, general, we will have to leave it there. another reminder that the president is going to make a statement in about 30 minutes from now. 10:50 a.m. from the south lawn of the white house and we will have live coverage of that. one governor taking matters into this own hands as protesters and sp supporters take to the street. what rick perry is prepared to do today. >> they are children in need. they are children that if they don't come here they will probably not have a future and they don't know where their tomorrow is. >> i don't think it is right they are bringing illegles over and we have people here born and raised going without.
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once again getting word from the white house the president is said to make a statement on the ukraine on the south line of the a white house in about 30 minutes. we will see strong language from records overseas. we will see what the president has to say about 10:50 a.m. stay tuned for that with brit hume and bret baier to talk about it. protesters rallied at 300 locations over the government has the texas governor, rick perry, promised to make matters into his own hand and announced plans to send national guard troops secure the border. casey is here on this.
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how many would be deployed? >> we don't know specifics but an example is expected this afternoon. some of the early reporting is roughly a thousand troops could be sent down. this would be a gradual ramp up. early estimates put the cost at a cool $12 million a month. soldiers would be scattered throughout the rio grande valley in texas the place that is ground zero for the border. protest all over texas and the country for that matter this past weekend. people hitting the street on both sides of the issue as the situation down south is escalating and dragging on it appears more and more americans are upset with the idea
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accommodating the children. >> this isn't about the kids. this is about criminals bringing diseases and i am tired of it. >> reporter: the governor said all along he is going to take matters into this own hands and not waiting on the president or the federal government to act. >> this isn't the first time troops have been working down there. what happened last time? >> reporter: remember in 2006 there was an operation jump start and it was announced by then president george bush and that was where guardsman were deployed to the entire united states border and the role to support u.s. customs and agents with the border patrol. that lasted a while and ended in
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2008 and more than 168,000 illegal immigrants were arrested. operation jump start total cost was $1.2 billion: >> casey, thank you. two americans were killed in the fighting in gaza and secretary of state john carry is on his way to gaza and we will talk with the house arms committee. >> a poorly planned photo leaves a woman in jail. how did that happen it is just a picture? we will tell you the connection.
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south lawn live coverage heave in the "america's newsroom." michael turner is on the armed service committee and he is live with us here. welcome to "america's newsroom." what do you hope he says? what do you expect him to say? >> i hope the president makes it clear this issue is responsibility with vladimer putin. he has tens of thousands of troops on the border of crane and the fact the site isn't secure and we don't have access to it is an issue of russia not providing the access. the war zone that has been opened here in europe has been opened by the direction of vladimer putin. this is with him and the president needs to lean on russia. >> "the wall street journal" said what can the white house do to shape a response to the dramatic turn in events this past week? how do you think you can best answer that question? >> there are a number of things.
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sanctions are a dial you can continuously turn up. the president could increase the pressure there. but more importantly, we could provide support to the ukrainians. we are not providing enough intelligence information and even providing them equipment and military assistance with how best they can defend themselves. >> if you want to get putin to behave differently, what the article points out is you want to provide the russian leader an offramp to de-escalate matters in ukraine. how would you achieve that? >> it has to be a direct indication this is vladimer putin's war. the president has been slow to hold russia accountable. he is talking about the issue of what is occurring in ukraine and the pro-russian separatist
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whether they are funded and equipped by russia and russia needs to be the sole target of the efforts with respect to ukraine. >> let's move to israel. lindsay graham on meet the press: >> my view of the israeli operation is stay as long as you need to stay and go wherever you need to go to deal with hamas. it isn't the number of deaths that determine the moral outcome. more german soldiers were killed than americans. i would say in gaza as long as i need to stop the rockets for good. >> would you support that? how long would that take? >> what is here is there wasn't international outrage when over a thousand rockets were sent into israel from gaza. we need to close down the routes
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and let israel defend themselves. this is an issue where missile defense performed well. we saw the iron dome and we provided funding to make sure it works. israel has a right to defend themselves. >> third, iran. we know the nuclear negotiations are going to be expended another four months and puts it at mid-november. the secretary argued that iran is backing down and the united states policy has a handle on this. do you agree? >> i think this is embarra embarrassing. no one thought the discussions with iran were going to be productive. the administration went in with difficult goals to achieve and no incentive for iran to achieve
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that. and russia had no interest in disswaying iran. the administration stepped into an unachievable and how to deter iran. >> you think the policy failed right now? yes or no. >> absolutely. it is not unexpected we would be at this point. >> michael turner. republican from ohio. thank you for your time. if you have health insurance under obama you could be in for a sticker shot. a new analysis finds the average premium will increase next year. the premiums have rised in nine states. jim angle is live with more. >> the administration has difficulty moments ahead as the insurance companies reprice the
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premiums for the 2015 well in advance of the november elections. >> everyone will know what the premiums will be and i think they'll be higher than the administration is counting on. >> a few plans have small changes but most have increases in the same range. >> some are looking at roughly 24-25% increases and others seem less and it will vary by state. >> the premiums are going to be 15-20 percent higher. it will be a difficult situation and i don't think the administration is going to win on this. >> reporter: some plans are proposing smaller increases but no matter how small the president promised that every family would save $2500 a near. >> they were about $3,000 higher rather than $2500 lower.
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he missed it by a spread of $5500 and they are continuing to go up. >> reporter: premium cost is only a total cost. many people are confused and unhappy they must pay as much as $5,000 out of pocket before they get a single dollar of coverage. >> the cost of the deductible and out of network service use and the cost of drugs that are purchased under these programs. >> so that was a marketing strategy. but in order for that to work you have to be able to raise your premiums to recover the cost you didn't cover the first year. >> while some people may come out okay, millions will face higher rates when they were promised savings and that is likely to have political impact right before the election. 23 before the hour.
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rory mcilroy was the winner of the british open. and he wasn't the only. >> for the third time a mcilroy has won. >> he is 25 and winning his third major already and heads to the masters trying to become the sixth player to win all four of golf's biggest tournaments. his father placed a $341 wager in 2004 betting his son would win in ten years and he won $171,000. even his ex-fiance has something to celebrate after a bitter break up. taking home the istanbul cup. >> are they better together or
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better separate or apart? >> did anyone bet on her is the question? well can the missing irs e-mails be recovered? top officials testified they cannot. this as the judge considers whether or not to get a second opinion. >> a home evacuated after a massive sinkhole is getting bigger. >> this is bad stuff. we are on the fault line. she could come this way or go that way. who knows. it is very scary.
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>> i want to remind you about eight minutes away the president is going to be speaking from the south lawn of the white house about ukraine. the australian prime minister is director his blame and anger
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toward the russian president, vladimer putin. we will go live when it starts moments away. top irs officials have now testified under oath that former colleague lois lerner missing e-mails can't be recovered after her computer was wiped clean and this comes as the judge is deciding to get a second opinion. tyler harbor is here and jehmu greene is here. we have seen testimony from the lawmakers but on friday irs officials testified before a judge, in court, in the lawsuit filled by one of the groups targeted by the irs, and tech personal confirmed there was no way to retrieve the hard drive because it was wiped clean and recycled after they tried to recover the e-mails. does that seem proper, tyler?
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>> the irs is trying get the people to believe that just was they told the truth about the hard drive being wiped clean there was no way they were targeting these groups which is false. let's give them the point the harddrive failed and the e-mails we have to lois lerner in the agency and outside of the agency demonstrate her department and perhaps other departments were targeting these groups and trying to frame them for applying for this status and also political campaign activity. >> jehmu, there are requirements that they store decision making files and true the vote wanted their own experts to look at the hard drive to see if they can
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get the data but they don't have that chance. doesn't that break the law? >> hopefully coming out of this we will have better ways that federal agencies are keeping data and making sure they are following the law. but when you look at the fact that the world is on fire right now and we have got a so-called american organization suing the government so they can take away people's right to vote -- we are a country that is about expanding the vote. and this lawsuits starts from a group that wants to get non-profit tax deduction status so they can stop people from voting. that is just ludicrous. there is no there-there. both conservative and progressive groups were targeted. just because there is smoke doesn't mean there is fire. >> tyler, the federal government has asked the district court judge to dismiss this lawsuit -- we are going to have to leave it
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there we are going to breaking news. but thank you both. couple minutes away from the president's statement on ukraine as we await that on the south lawn. that might be the two-minute warning. we will see if that is the case. bringing in brit hume and bret baier to take us through the this and we will talk the team after the break here. [ female announcer ] we help make secure financial tomorrows a reality for over 19 million people. [ susan ] my promotion allowed me to start investing for my retirement. transamerica made it easy.
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today or over the weekend with what sort of conversations the president has been having with his staff? >> conversations that deal with the next step. they see the lynch pen as germany and forcing the eu to step up sanctions. you heard the secretary linking the facts today on the sunday shows but people like diane feinstein saying putin need to step up. today putin is lashing out saying it was ukraine's problem. i think you will see the president step up more forcefully. >> brit, "the wall street journal" and we were discussing this about 30 minutes ago you were questions if you have the desire to extract something from putin.
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"the wall street journal" is asking how do you provide an off ramp for putin to give him a reason to de-escalate things in eastern ukraine. >> the question is whether the off ramp consist of him being prodded or loured. sanctions are said that even those that is united states can impose unilateral that can bite russia would be an easy way out. all of the talk of off ramps occurred during the invasion of crimea and it was viewed what was going on in crimea was a blender. but this is a different matter. this was a terrible atrocity that occurred, really. we don't know whether it was
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accidental or not but it looks like there is a good possibility it was. but if the russia was applied by the russian separatist russia is to blame and that is an occasion for the world to react. the president has had his troubles convincing the europeans to act with him and it would be more effective and they did and it would answer the president's call to unilateral action. you cultivate the relationships, work the issues, and develop close ties with certain foreign leaders as people did with the british prime ministers and others. remember president george h. bush's relationship with helmes. >> it is possible, brett, and
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you cited the evidence from the secretary, russia will do everything possible to shift the current conflict in the east of ukraine from today's current military stage to the state of discussion at the negotiation table. perhaps there is movement already and that gives the president the opportunity the link hands somewhat on that crisis for the first time. >> i think critics have come out and said the president should be more forceful with russia. i think they want to take this and force russia into doing things to pull out of ukraine, changing the dynamic on the ground. you heard mike rogers saying this morning that the president could announce missile defense systems were going to start in
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poland and the czech republic. these things would set russia off. but he hasn't done that yet and he is calling with the eu to step up and lead the way with more sanctions. theas the president says there is not going to be any more u.s. military involvement beyond what is happening. the key question is how far they go. >> and i guess the question comes back to desire and i would assume the president hasn't done any of that because he doesn't believe in the policies. he reversed a lot of them. >> the president has a problem particularly with russia. russia is a partner for him in other areas. iran and syria to mention a couple. so there are areas he needs russia's cooperation and members of the administration will tell you they get russian
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cooperation. so the question for him is always going to be governed that if he goes too far and putin refuses to cooperate within other parts of the world it would set back the policy that is deeply rooted in cooperation and doing business with advisaries. if put putin offers talks, the administration likes talks. >> this is such a heinous act when you think about 200 plus people on board the plane and steve harris report was horrible. >> it is horrible to watch the fallout and now you have the insecure site of body bags being
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stacked up and the netherlands is saying we need repatriot the bodies. we need to get the remains of those killed. this is a major issue. >> and also on that point, when you think about the dutch and the amount of grieving happening in the united states, the president said they are our friends. >> i have been reluctant that the president must express the nation's emotion.
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there are times you should do that especially if you can use it gather momentum to announce a policy you will support. but think about the berlin wall coming down and the whole soviet empire crumbling and president george h. bush was called on the carpet by certain journalist for not expressing the joy and delight that much of the western world felt at seeing this happen. he was careful not to gloat and that proved to be the wise thing in that particular case. he managed that whole thing skillful skillful skillfully in such a way to not aggrivate the situation.
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it might help explain why his u.n.ambassador was stronger in her words. >> she went a long way and came out before the president as well. brett, with regard to the european powers and our allies there, history shows they don't act unless we lead them. it now the time when the president takes murk and says this is the way we are going forward with respect to russia and vladimer putin? >> i think you will hear a call from the president for that and you will hear a pointed message remember there is a lot of pushback in europe because once they go that far has possible economic and locations for the entire region basin this relationship with russia.
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germany again is the linchpin here b. relationship between angela merkel and vladimir putin. germany with this power to influence them. >> what it comes down to is a ringing statement by the president, i think he won't call publicly on europe except in the broadest sense to get tough, such messages are best delivered to those countries in private. he might be well advised to make a strong statement talking about what an atrocity this was and broader need for the world as a whole or whatever configuration he chooses to step up, but this is the kind of thing where in american presence in the world backed up by american power which is the way we've always practice diplomacy, diplomacy backed by the use of presented
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force. it gives strength to the president's words. this president has been hesitant to see that model as the one for him. the result is in part we have these sort of weak or gentle statements and doesn't have much influence over world leaders in which he should be expected to have influence. that is a problem he faces. >> thank you. we will see you tonight at 6:00. there in washington awaiting the president. he will not miss a moment as soon as he comes out we will bring him to you. >> the president speaking momentarily. >> "happening now" starting right now, we will see you at 3:00. >> this is

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